eFootball (All Platforms)

Sany023 said:
I want to share some information about matches in eFootball.
Sorry for some rude words, but I can't find another ...

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I was played match online with new-created team just for testing purposes.
While as a rival was team with 105-107 level players and he is scoring and scoring, not matter anything, what's happening in the field ...
When I was put gamepad, he is still scoring ...

For what purpose this "money-skilled players" play this game ?

Mostly they are will be scoring goal after goal, even if you are out of pc or console for a minute.
What's totally wrong with them ? And with "Fair Play" principle ?
Is it mostly common situation in all modern online games, where peoples play not just for pleasure of both, but for dominating under others ?

Are they completely "ill-head" players ?
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I can answer by myself on my question, while making own experiences during "playing" into eFootball (if it's even suitable to call word "playing", when you control can by simply off in any moment).
Yes, it is. They will score 25 or 30 goals in the row, doing weird tricks on the field and getting their "fast hormone of happinness".
Really lost generation, who do not even know real beauty of soccer, that can be in cool combinations on the field, elegant decisions of coach in difficult situations (and if after this decision team is winning - it will be "sparkle like a diamond" decision), re-doing formations during matches, knowing many book, linked with soccer and great players and coaches, and etc ...

It's a rigged simplyfied ping-pong soccer-kind themed game with coin-based addiction, that has literally nothing with " true soccer" as we know it.

Also was found answer by PESEP - former PES streamer and now eFootball streamer.

 
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HeWillKnockFourTimes said:
Got excited for a moment, Master League is coming as some kind of event for Dream Team, bringing back the old Master League fake players, and having a few bits, but it's not even a proper mode.
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I thought I saw Castolo mentioned in one of the screenshots. But overall it'll be a pathetic imitation of master league, I don't think it will have any depth. And since there's no edit mode the community can't even do anything about the licenses.
 
elloco said:
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Damn, I would have liked to get a question in there. Like "Have you guys seen the show Shogun and how people would literally fall on their own swords if they did the tiniest dumb shit imaginable? And you guys aren't even embarrassed about the abysmal state of this game???"
To be fair my question would probably not have come up
 
Interesting that they said that Licensing issues are making it impossible to do an edit mode now. Something that has been rumored for a while that football teams are now more rigid about licenses and how they are being used. Could mean that 2K also can't use an edit mode.
 
subtra3t said:
I thought I saw Castolo mentioned in one of the screenshots. But overall it'll be a pathetic imitation of master league, I don't think it will have any depth. And since there's no edit mode the community can't even do anything about the licenses.
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I am, certainly agree with you.
But at least added earlier offline mode of League mode - is small step and possibility for playing with own funnies with default teams.
With all drowbacks and with knowing "how far eFootball" from all past gen soccer simulators.
With existing League Mode - it's something at least something, then nothing.

https://pixeldrain.com/u/DjQPVKDB

I am writing this few phrases, trying to find something good in game and in the same time sometimes want to suppouse them rename game as a "ePumpkinBall". :PIRATE:
 
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I would love to to interview those guys too. Even if there perhaps not even 5% responsible regarding efootball's current states, like on Middle Age people said "Our lineage will perish by the same fate, Kimura!!!"
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To be honest, i don't even watch football, nor even UCL since 2021-22 (not because of PES, but Covid killed it too) and the new "robot" generation wasn't appealing. Not appealing for me to watch them evolving with years.

I would love a football game with some era, even if it's only based on one league + UCL and Europa (i don't know, all league from Serie A or Premier League from 2000 to now, or a total mod possibility BUT a modern football game) a bit like the one recensing every single World Cup from the beginning there was on PS1 if i'm right.

Before, i carried about youth generation following many teams (when it young O'Shea, Bale, Messi of course, Marchisio, etc.) now, i don't even give a damn.
Since Klopp renewed his version of gegenpressing : they all want players who can do everything, no special tricks (except if it's built-in) good in offense and defense. I love the original but not copies. Now, what we have as "special" players who looked superstars like on 1995-2010?

Salah, Erling Haland, Mbappe, also in attack Raphina and Vinicius (Vinicius got more that classic Joga Bonito, Raphina) Van Dijk, +-Donnarumma who got their own signature.
There much more players but not even 15% of players with signature we got in the, old-school or should i say "classic" football. It's a boomer reaction but not really far from the thruth. Football became quickly asptic and robotic, and it started even before 2021 but there still was classic players, older, on the pitch. No they're all in Asia or retired. Sad times... And it's not because i'm not following that much football right now and get lost with names, it's just than when i watch games they all looks attentist and similar...

But i loved AFCON trough, even if players weren't top level and referee weren't very good (as usual), it was more human, there was a bit more grinta and excitement.
 
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Football game with an Era is very unlikely to happen. you would have to license each player individually. The only way to get this is with Mods.
 
Jay-Jay 10 said:
Football game with an Era is very unlikely to happen. you would have to license each player individually. The only way to get this is with Mods.
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I know mate, i know... It's just some kind of Dream.
It will never ever happen. Except with mods but there's limitations to share multiple database on a single game.

Edit: What refrain us is money, otherwise we already at least tried something to restore real football games as they were before. I don't hate that much Efootball 26' as i hate Every Fifa since the 21 but there was much better version of it, like the 2023-2024, some revision where totally okay, some others less.
And no need to change game speed.

With a lot of money i would do something, i don't care if it sells or not at the beginning, but i would like to make an action football game with PES vibes from the 1 to the 2008 on PS2 in terms of dynamism, not too realistic because i would like it to be easy to play but hard to master, and more dynamic than (even if i love it) PES 2021 as it doesn't got fans and you got to play in a certain way for having a dynamic gameplay, it's a bit too "realistic" for a game, and football could be truely annoying when you watch two teams staying back and playing long ball on the lone attacker.

Now, without money all you can do is patch on already existing games. But we want fresh air for fock sake
 
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elloco said:
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https://pixeldrain.com/u/t3GWAC25

Mates, few funny words from me.

Хитрые глаза японца
Засверкали от ответа на вопрос.
Честно он хотел про скрипт ответить,
А пришлось ответить не всерьёз!

His wise eyes just shining
While he is answering and trying do not lying
Is this ever be in game a script ?
No, but after playing you will be a totally addict!
 
There's different type of script, but there's scripts even in your favorite football game. Or just game.
As long as it's something you can counter like, at least to me, PES 21 even more than the 20 : it's the only game i don't win everytime i got concentred against CPU, and i feel responsible of taking my own goal.
I love PES 19 too, but... CPU is weak, same as PES 17. Those two where good when the servers where open.

Edit : don't take it bad @Sany023 it's not against you at all ;) and i agree about all your post regarding Efootball. But the past isn't so good as we think : there's scripts even in PES 4-5-6 especially when you're on cup. Like 8 players in red arrow when against you when you're in semi final. For PES 6 and 4 (vanilla) i suppose it's the CPU using game bugs / like counter with Tanks players/ like if it was something normal, as those game got more contacts bugs and where more "all public" especially the 6 (easy to play and... easy to master BUT against the CPU the challenge was there. Sad they didn't released JLWE10 gameplay instead. At least players contact and passing through everything was impossible, the same game without that bug, and defense just a tiny bit more reactive.
Now i didn't tried enough EF26 to say "yes, you're right" just because i don't like the "too agile, too easy to control any player whatever the stats" feeling in comparison to others revision.

Why those jap always took the better for us? On an interview they said clearly that we, occidental, got a different manner to play like if we were playing all the same : fast and straight to the goal, no construction... While japanese where got a more tactical approach.
I hated that condescance but on that era all clichés regarding strangers, people from all countries were something common.
 
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NeoRetro said:
There's different type of script, but there's scripts even in your favorite football game. Or just game.
As long as it's something you can counter like, at least to me, PES 21 even more than the 20 : it's the only game i don't win everytime i got concentred against CPU, and i feel responsible of taking my own goal.
I love PES 19 too, but... CPU is weak, same as PES 17. Those two where good when the servers where open.

Edit : don't take it bad @Sany023 it's not against you at all ;) and i agree about all your post regarding Efootball. But the past isn't so good as we think : there's scripts even in PES 4-5-6 especially when you're on cup. Like 8 players in red arrow when against you when you're in semi final. For PES 6 and 4 (vanilla) i suppose it's the CPU using game bugs / like counter with Tanks players/ like if it was something normal, as those game got more contacts bugs and where more "all public" especially the 6 (easy to play and... easy to master BUT against the CPU the challenge was there. Sad they didn't released JLWE10 gameplay instead. At least players contact and passing through everything was impossible, the same game without that bug, and defense just a tiny bit more reactive.
Why those jap always took the better for us? On an interview they said clearly that we, occidental, got a different manner to play like if we were playing all the same : fast and straight to the goal, no construction... While japanese where got a more tactical approach.
I hated that condescance but on that era all clichés regarding strangers, people from all countries were something common.
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There is nothing literally against me or my notes in your words.
I am also was played in many versions of FIFA and PES and know "what's script about".
Even in loving PES 17, in beautifully looking PES 21 - there is obvious technology, called "pre-scripted situations".
But amount of using it and balance - is very different.
But in eFootball - there is missing all core from PES, very glad that, at least, Pro Evolution Soccer saved it's good name and new game called openly e(uro)Football - game, where main target of developers - is making money on your addictive wishing to score more scripted the same goals and buy more and more "beautifully looking cards of soccer players".
It's all very clear for those, who want to see it.
 
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No when i said "against you" it's about PES 6 as you're doing tons of patch of the version i hate the most lol, except when played with very small team (average isn't enough). But thanks god, PC versions are enhanced, debugged and modded, not all but let's say 50% and it's enough.

Yes i get what you mean : i accept when script is coming from CPU but i can't when the game is fucking up your own controls, shoots or whatever to win the game, and leave you 15-20% chance to equalize if you're losing 1-0... That would be the same as Fifa's doing since a long time, ball teleporting to the goal even if the shoot direction was far away etc.
That's even more tricky than Casino's machine. It should be forbidden, i hope one day the idontknow big ONU minister of videogame may forbid those method, but better taking it to the roots : forbid all Pay2Win game, forbid to sold any type of card giving you something to enhance your possibility to win.

About aesthetics stuffs i'm not against through, or special weapons on solo games, new characters etc. as it's giving money for extra works the producers have done (like the Mortal Kombat packs for example, or some special skins) but not that. Rules should be applied, but it doesn't work as worldwide : it depends the country (Belgium and Netherlands).
Because what all players have to do (and they all did it) is changing their adress or creating another account to outpasses that law. I really wonder if there's a way to making that plague totally forbidden everywhere. It doesn't seems to be.
 
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Is there any informations about moding possibilities in efootball? i am asking about stadiums. adboards etc. Are there any progress in this things?
 
If you would like to watch this for Edit Mode and Master League but you dont have time, here you go.
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I dont get this, what licensing issues do we have with people creating kits? I get there is no stat editor or transfers to avoid any cheating possibly and since there is no offline modes. But i can already add a licensed team name to my Dream Team which is not licensed in the game. So im very confused.

As for ML its not quiet clear but its not offline traditional Master League we get. Not even an online Master League like in the PS3 era. Its not clearly explained but its an online Event mode, so basically everyone probably hast to play with the classic ML default team and players can get fatigued and injured. Sounds like a nice addition that you drop without notice but presenting it as a full on game mode saying "be happy with this and with MyLeague as offline modes" is damn sad. I would have been happy if MyLeague would have fatigue, injuries, player suspensions due to cards in it at least if not even signings.

Seems like they wont let go Dream Team in any shape of form.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
I dont get this, what licensing issues do we have with people creating kits?
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It is very likely that football clubs have been getting more concerned with copyright issues of their licenses and seeing Konamis statements I am sure they got some letters from lawyers.

Look at EAFCs jerseys for the non-licensed teams of the Serie A. I am pretty sure there is a reason why they look nothing like the real kits and aren't editable.

Some games might get away with it like Football Manager but even efootballs non licensed kits for some teams are now looking less like the real thing as they did compared to the past.

And when a copyright holder sees how much Konami earns and if they then offer an official way to basically get around licenses by editing teams, it will very quickly turn into the copyright holder contacting them.
 
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Jay-Jay 10 said:
It is very likely that football clubs have been getting more concerned with copyright issues of their licenses and seeing Konamis statements I am sure they got some letters from lawyers.

Look at EAFCs jerseys for the non-licensed teams of the Serie A. I am pretty sure there is a reason why they look nothing like the real kits and aren't editable.

Some games might get away with it like Football Manager but even efootballs non licensed kits for some teams are now looking less like the real thing as they did compared to the past.

And when a copyright holder sees how much Konami earns and if they then offer an official way to basically get around licenses by editing teams, it will very quickly turn into the copyright holder contacting them.
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So you say copyright holders might pull out if the game provides an opportunity for non licensed teams getting licenses through edit mode?
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
So you say copyright holders might pull out if the game provides an opportunity for non licensed teams getting licenses through edit mode?
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That is one thing that can happen yes, because you prove you won't need their license in the future which would mean an advantage in negotiations for Konami. But I am saying teams Konami doesn't have the copyright for will sue them if they allow the jerseys of the fake teams to be edited in game. There is a reason why no football game offers it officially at the moment and why fake jerseys look more different than in the past. And I think that is what Konami is saying, I am pretty sure they got some letters in the past from lawyers and now are more careful which is why they are saying things have changed.
 
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That is one thing that can happen yes, because you prove you won't need their license in the future which would mean an advantage in negotiations for Konami. But I am saying teams Konami doesn't have the copyright for will sue them if they allow the jerseys of the fake teams to be edited in game. There is a reason why no football game offers it officially at the moment and why fake jerseys look more different than in the past. And I think that is what Konami is saying, I am pretty sure they got some letters in the past from lawyers and now are more careful which is why they are saying things have changed.
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But they do not have licenses at all to those teams right? I mean North London, the name is fake, the default kit is fake. So it has nothing to do with Arsenal. If the players in the team are licensed they belong to a completely different license, to FIFA i think. At least this is how it was in the past. Im not a lawyer but dont know on what ground they could sue. I know football is different to other sports, but Gran Turismo has the same edit mode for years without problem.
 
gabe.paul.logan said:
But they do not have licenses at all to those teams right? I mean North London, the name is fake, the default kit is fake. So it has nothing to do with Arsenal. If the players in the team are licensed they belong to a completely different license, to FIFA i think. At least this is how it was in the past. Im not a lawyer but dont know on what ground they could sue. I know football is different to other sports, but Gran Turismo has the same edit mode for years without problem.
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1st Different sports.

2nd: if you allow players in game to change North London to official licensed Arsenal kit through edit mode (also bad example since Arsenal is licensed), then yes football clubs will sue, because then you are giving an official way to basically overcome the license and that is what Konami very clearly hinted at, by basically saying the landscape is now different than in the past, meaning they can't allow you to do that officially because it will get them into hot water.

Like I said have a think why in EA Sports FC the Serie A kits are so unrecognizable of the non licensed teams and why EA doesn't have an edit function for those kits.
 
Feliplayz said:
Just leaving this here:

https://www.konami.com/efootball/kick-off/us/en-us/



Seems... fun? Maybe?

I still don't know if it will be exclusive to Nintendo Switch 2 or if it will release in other consoles and PC (and mobile).
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it will be the same limited skatering Unreal engine used now for efootball and crossovering from mobile phones, but to have a PES game on Switch... PES2021 FOXENGINE it's still the best engine for PES...So for sure for ML and single player use It's still better to play on PC With Football Life 2026
 

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Jay-Jay 10 said:
It is very likely that football clubs have been getting more concerned with copyright issues of their licenses and seeing Konamis statements I am sure they got some letters from lawyers.

Look at EAFCs jerseys for the non-licensed teams of the Serie A. I am pretty sure there is a reason why they look nothing like the real kits and aren't editable.

Some games might get away with it like Football Manager but even efootballs non licensed kits for some teams are now looking less like the real thing as they did compared to the past.

And when a copyright holder sees how much Konami earns and if they then offer an official way to basically get around licenses by editing teams, it will very quickly turn into the copyright holder contacting them.
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That might hold up a little if...
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Chelsea's kit wasn't blue, blue, white, and Real Madrid's all-white (excuse the stupid emoji as I'd to find a random image)

Licensed kit are surely the exact design and logos on the kit. I'm sure you can't copyright a pattern, like stripes or a sash. So just make the kit with stripes, but change the thickness and count of them. Everyone knows who it is anyway.

What next? Coming after patch creators for licensing teams in PES6?

I feel it's all an excuse for them not to add it. Otherwise, every modder out there adding real kits for FC & eF would be getting dragged through every court room in the land
 
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That might hold up a little if...
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Chelsea's kit wasn't blue, blue, white, and Real Madrid's all-white (excuse the stupid emoji as I'd to find a random image)

Licensed kit are surely the exact design and logos on the kit. I'm sure you can't copyright a pattern, like stripes or a sash. So just make the kit with stripes, but change the thickness and count of them. Everyone knows who it is anyway.

What next? Coming after patch creators for licensing teams in PES6?

I feel it's all an excuse for them not to add it. Otherwise, every modder out there adding real kits for FC & eF would be getting dragged through every court room in the land
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Yes it can happen that they come after them. Indeed the German league has done that in the past that they had lawsuits against some modding communities for some German Football Managers.

Most of the time it is not interesting for them because there is no money to get, but with the earnings Konami or EA have that is different.

Also if I remember correctly in current efootball the Madrid jersey has very light grey striped which you don't see from far and make it look just white but I do think the light grey stripes are there to not make it a pure white jersey
 

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Feliplayz said:
Just leaving this here:

https://www.konami.com/efootball/kick-off/us/en-us/



Seems... fun? Maybe?

I still don't know if it will be exclusive to Nintendo Switch 2 or if it will release in other consoles and PC (and mobile).
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I really hope this comes to other platforms, it seems like it'd very enjoyable to play with friends. It reminds me a bit of FC's Pro Clubs gamemode.


FC Bayern said:
That might hold up a little if...
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Chelsea's kit wasn't blue, blue, white, and Real Madrid's all-white (excuse the stupid emoji as I'd to find a random image)

Licensed kit are surely the exact design and logos on the kit. I'm sure you can't copyright a pattern, like stripes or a sash. So just make the kit with stripes, but change the thickness and count of them. Everyone knows who it is anyway.

What next? Coming after patch creators for licensing teams in PES6?

I feel it's all an excuse for them not to add it. Otherwise, every modder out there adding real kits for FC & eF would be getting dragged through every court room in the land
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I don't think it's an excuse. Chelsea's real life home kit is still very much different from what is available in game. I think recreating their kit but only making minor changes like the thickness/count of the stripes might still put Konami in a gray area.

There really isn't much of a reason for them to avoid adding in edit mode in my opinion. In fact, if they added it it'd probably encourage people to play the game who were initially put off by the lack of licenses. And it's not like the edit mode would really encourage people to spend more time playing offline, since most people wouldn't play MyLeague regardless it was licensed or not.

There is a massive difference between a multibillion dollar company trying to circumvent copyrights and a couple hundred enthusiasts doing it. It would be useless for them to sue a kit maker for eFootball or FC because even if you get one of them to stop making new kits/logos, there'll be many other people who'll be ready to resume their work.
 
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