lol, this is better than any talkshow or soap opera
It's just the beginning
The writing is on the wall really, look at the thread activity in both threads.
One could decide to perceive anything in any way imaginable, old bean. How dare you say that.
You wouldn't disagree, I'm sure, that Ultimate Team (and playing online with fully automatic controls) is a "kids game". That's my opinion on how it plays, and in my opinion it shouldn't be - it should be for anyone who wants an online career mode, OR it should be ditched for one that requires more skill and concentration. If I'm winning 9-2 (OR losing 9-2) then it's a bit too easy to score. That's not an unusual result on my fixture list - far from it.
I'm expressing my opinion because that's what this place is for. If you wanted to discuss your feelings on PES, I don't think anyone should stop you, unless it's blatant trolling (based on no experience of the game other than a five minute playtest of a demo that you didn't want to like in the first place). There's merit in comparison, I think.
As I said before, your game works for you because of the way you play it. Well, I want to play online - against people like you - and have control over my squad, buy and sell etc... So I was not just registering my frustration but hopefully sparking a debate about it.
As a result, I'll be trying a fully manual online game at some point to see if I can get used to it and/or enjoy it.
The system works!
I think you come to the main sticking point here, these guys are playing the game in ways they see as realistic football and are choosing only to see the good points they like and are turning a strict blind eye to all the bad points in fear of losing their enjoyment of the game.
They are deliberately turning a blind eye to the issues shown by you and others and metaphorically, they don't want to see how the issues in ultimate team or single player are core problems which affect every game mode, regardless of sliders.
See with FIFA, unlike many here i have literally played every FIFA apart from 13, yes since 96 and 95 on the mega drive, even when ISS came out and was the king on the ps1, I still played FIFA on the PC or brought it cheap after 6 months, every year.
Back then and on the PS2, i was a child and i had and still do have a really big imagination'. I', a person who dreams a lot, thinks a lot about things and creates his own world. The reason i played FIFA was i really, really waned it to get as good as PES, i know it sucked, i mean ISSProEvo 2 on the PS1 we played that until about 2004 i think, along with PES2 which lasted a while, FIFA died after about 2 months EVERY YEAR. My imagination, my dream was for ea to sort themselves out and give the ultimate football game.
I carried this on up until FIFA10, now in FIFA09 and 10 for a while,this imagination culture stayed! I was getting rather frustrated with ea, core changes where needed, but ea just took a blind eye to them and where manipulative, manual which was supposed to be developed has stayed in the same ignorant style for years. This is where the difference with PES came back and why i can't be arsed to really get into FIFA like i used to. PES over the years apart from 2014, 2008-2009 and parts for 2012 in the beginning have always provided balanced settings where no matter your imagination or what realism you WANT to see, n matter how you played the result and match would 8/10 times be realistic.
Basically what snapped with me and FIFA10 and has never come back is I got fed up with playing with one hand tied behind my back to get realism because of EA incompetence. I got annoyed that with all the technology and potential shown in FIFA 08, I was having to play pretend for realism and play at 70%.
It all comes back to the fact ea never got good at making football games, i mean they showed potential from 07-09 but after they just been their usual selves they have always been. The development in the last generation was nothing special at all, it was an expected development to embrace better technology like all the other western games. They cut corners and just milk the game every year.
The only thing that really changed last gen was PES in the early games stagnated, didn't upgrade their tech and got left behind.
To understand just how fucked and how inferior ea are to konami at making games, PES 2015 is still essentially a PS3 tech game even on the PS4, the gameplay across the board is almost identical apart from some glossed graphic effects in the PS4 version, the ps3/pc versions where sabotaged and dubbed down to make the ps4 look better. This is 100% there is no arguing here,
PES 2015 on the PC has the exact same PCspecs as the PS3 game PES2014 and the same gameplay as PES2015 PS4.
Imagine how bad it is going to get when konami break away from the PS3 version next year and truly embrace the new tech on the PS4. EA have had two stand alone attempts on the ps4, two attempts complete separate from the last gen and neither match up to pes 2015.
To compare PES 2015 needs just 2GB ram and even age old video cards run smoothly, FIFA 15 needs 8GB ram and a mid range card, its a genuine PS4 title
Angus, your correct, pes 2015 is rather basic and simple, Konami are still getting to grips with the fox engine and the animation engine, that shows how far ahead Konami are and they have always been better talented to create football games, they are only just getting started,
again, imagine PES 2015 x4!
EA do yourselves a favor, please stop cutting corners, do your homework! Focus on the simple things and create balance using stats.
