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- 13 July 2003
I play with Dortmund and both CBs are coming forward for corners. I'll have to check the team and player instructions, cant remember making any changes for that.
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Bought this again yesterday - had lots of fun with a mate playing Co-Op Seasons last night, spent around 5 hours on it - haven't had one of those sessions on a footy game since I can remember.
Game is still too fast for my liking but as a package it just feels so much deeper than PES 2015. You get a lot more for your money here and it really does make a difference to me having all the different stadiums, the better commentary and graphics. That might sound shallow but it's 2015 - I don't want game menus that look like something from the PS2 anymore.
Shooting on FIFA 15 is more realistic, every shot doesn't fly in the back of the net like they do in PES 2015. The whole atmosphere and feeling in the game is, I dunno, more exciting I guess.
One question: What difficulty does everyone play on in Career Mode? Really struggling on Legendary and I'm a pretty good player - CPU keeps the ball for ages, can't seem to win it back.
Legacy defending is a joke. It's not you defending at all so no way should they go back to that. You never feel in control with tactical? How can you not as its even more control?! Legacy is no control whatsoever. Hold a button down and let computer do it for you. This day and age, we should have more control so tactical is definitely the right way to go.
Above you said you are a good player. How can you be if you let the computer do things for you? It's not you playing (defending). Holding a button down and closing your eyes is a joke imo as that is all it would take to make a tackle.
I wonder if I should get this now..
Why are you always so dramatic about everything? I enjoy Legacy Defending, it suits me fine. I also hate Manual, is that ok with you?
I have both games and before PES I was playing Fifa all the time. Then I tried PES and bought it, Fifa was showing some annoying problems. But after a couple months playing PES I realized I never had the feeling that Fifa gave me. Scoring in PES is not so rewarding, its just not exciting. Shooting is lame and easy. Its hard to create the chances but then on the box there´s just no variation, no unexpected things, not like before. Fifa in the other hand, doesn´t play that realistic in the buildup, but the animations, the environment, the crowd sounds, the stadiums, and finally the things that can happen inside the box killed PES for me. Came back a couple days ago and I could play the game all night long.
Game is not perfect, there´s also strange things hapening sometimes, but overall, in my opinion, is so much complete, even on the pitch. Plus, my eyes don´t hurt while playing on sunny days, even in stadiums with shadows. And the best part of it, this game actually has FOULS!!!
Now who is starting with Fifa, prepare to learn to defend or the game will be frustrating.
About legacy/tactical defending, this year is very diferent and legacy is not even close to automatic. Who thinks that with legacy defending you just have to run and press X is sooo wrong. Fifa defense has to be patient and clever, period. Unless playing easy levels. I believe World Class is the way to go, but I´ve been trying Legendary. Sometimes it feels unfair though.
Legacy can be as different to how it used to be as it wants but I'll never go back to it. Rather have more input into the game. I don't even play the game often but still don't have any issue with tactical defending at all.
Is it ok to say this without somebody coming out with a boring comment saying I'm angry or dramatic because I have a different opinion?
I have both games and before PES I was playing Fifa all the time. Then I tried PES and bought it, Fifa was showing some annoying problems. But after a couple months playing PES I realized I never had the feeling that Fifa gave me. Scoring in PES is not so rewarding, its just not exciting. Shooting is lame and easy. Its hard to create the chances but then on the box there´s just no variation, no unexpected things, not like before. Fifa in the other hand, doesn´t play that realistic in the buildup, but the animations, the environment, the crowd sounds, the stadiums, and finally the things that can happen inside the box killed PES for me. Came back a couple days ago and I could play the game all night long.
Game is not perfect, there´s also strange things hapening sometimes, but overall, in my opinion, is so much complete, even on the pitch. Plus, my eyes don´t hurt while playing on sunny days, even in stadiums with shadows. And the best part of it, this game actually has FOULS!!!
Now who is starting with Fifa, prepare to learn to defend or the game will be frustrating.
About legacy/tactical defending, this year is very diferent and legacy is not even close to automatic. Who thinks that with legacy defending you just have to run and press X is sooo wrong. Fifa defense has to be patient and clever, period. Unless playing easy levels. I believe World Class is the way to go, but I´ve been trying Legendary. Sometimes it feels unfair though.

Quite same here!
Another thing:
I never really cared about the stadium atmosphere that much.
But yesterday I played in the CL knockout stage against Real Madrid with my headphones on and I was the away team.
When I scored the first goal the crowd was cheering as usual.
But when RM equalized...DAMN!!!
That cheering was a lot more extreme and all those vuvuzelas and with the slight shaking camera...AWESOME!
My big mistake was to purchase PES 2015 (PC) even I was enjoying FIFA.
It´s been 25 € "only" but it never clicked and to be honest I feel a little mad about myself giving KONAMI my money for their game.
Well, while I don´t like to go into these discussions... I must admit by saying "legacy defence is a joke" some people might feel you´re saying "people using legacy are a joke". Its not my case, but I think some people understood it like that.
Anyway, I might try tactical again because I like a challenge and to be honest, tactical may be more rewarding once we learn to use it.
I said it was a joke but why take it so serious?
I think it is. It doesn't mean that it is for others. That's surely a given? People are a bit too precious over the term joke or whatever other ones are used at times.
Im bought Fifa and bought PES. Since PES's release I thought that PES would be the game for me. But after a while I got bored. So I went back to Fifa the other night and started a carear mode with Soton. Im really enjoying it. Lost to Liverpool 0-1 in first league game with a last minute goal and beat WBA 3-1 at home.
2 really good games but I have always felt that with Fifa the best games are when 2 good/average teams play not the top teams. I enjoyed the WBA game more. Not cos I won but it really represented how the game would go in real life. The game went 1-0, 1-1, 2-1 and then WBA pushed up and pinned me in forcing me to counter. One ball over the top caught them out and the centre half pulled my forward back. Red card. Again WBA did all the pressing and I counted and scored a third.
Add the atmosphere and real stadium and Fifa is a good game this year. I havent adjusted any sliders yet as at the moment im enjoying it how it is.
Yep, ambience in Fifa is miles better, no discussion. What about celebrations? In PES, sometimes I´m loosing 2-0 and if I score a goal, player go runing like crazy... almost as if they scored the winner goal at the 90´. Its those small details... They are just too many to make me enjoy the game.
About buying PES, sometimes I regret the money I´ve spent, but I also know, if I didn´t buy it, I would still be thinking that I should do it. At leasst now I know wich one is the best for me.
.There's an unpredictability factor about 15 that you used to be able to associate with past PES titles.